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Renee Zamora

Follow-up to Glean What You Can....

This is a follow-up to my 1 Apr 2007 article "Better Glean What You Can Now BEFORE "new FamilySearch" http://rzamor1.livejournal.com/2007/04/01/

When I stumbled on the information for my second cousin's wife on the internet I was looking to fill out information on her in my database. Since I am LDS that includes wanting to have ordinance information. When I located her birth, death and parents names in the newspaper obituary I could then determine that the information earlier looked at on the IGI was indeed her.

It appears that the biggest problem people had with my earlier article is when I mentioned the future loss of living parents names on the IGI. I said: "That's really sad I want that information, especially when determining if temple work needs to be done or not." I think the key word here is DETERMINING as in making a decision if the temple work had been done. This was not with the intention of actually doing the work once that determination was made. There are many steps that need to happen before you actually SUBMIT names for temple ordinances. Collapse )
Renee Zamora

A Little Annoyed

I still sit here waiting for my house to close. My new house has closed but the buyers of my old house ran into problems. They just got a new bank and might close tomorrow. We shall see. I'm trying to be good and patient and enduring through all this. I threw up my hands in frustration and stopped packing. I've been quietly working on my genealogy, escaping from reality is a better name for it. I've been reviewing all my Legacy IGI Search finds. I sure have a lot of work to do. Right now I'm looking at the Harris'. This is my biggest name study in my database. It took three days for Legacy to run all the names against the IGI. I am surprised that much of the work isn't done.

One thing that really got me was when I was going over the names - Camila Eyring Kimball's name came up. It wasn't the fact that she came up, her husband Spencer W. Kimball is my 6th Cousin 4 times removed. So she is alright in my database. The thing that surprised me is that after she died in 1987 people actually submitted her name for temple work. Now you would think that people would know that the wife of the prophet had her temple work done during her life time. There was no need to do this work for her. Was it carelessness, someone did a massive submission and submitted in error. Or was it by purpose that someone did her work again. Did they think they would have a special temple experience doing her work. I don't know why it's been done but it has and several times. I think they should be shot for doing that! A little harsh but what a waste of time when others need their work rightfully done.

OK, just had to vent that feeling. I'm going back to my quiet corner now and work away.

See ya tomorrow, for tomorrow is always another genealogy day!
Renee Zamora

IGI Search

My computer has just finished running Legacy's IGI Search feature. It has taken 11 days to search 8,944 individuals that had incomplete ordinances in my database. I have the slowest DSL connection that Qwest/MSN offer. I ran it around the clock, just shutting it down twice a day and restarting it. No one says you have to do that I just do that to give everything a fresh start. When I first started I wasn't on the latest Legacy download version. It had some issues on the earlier build. Once I download the latest build everything ran smoothly. I haven't noticed any bugs. Now the big task is to look at all the matches it found and update my records! Right now I'm only into the D's. It has found a lot of matches for me. Hopefully more than half will have had their work done. Even at half we are still talking about 4,500 people needing temple work. Do I have my work cut out for me or what?

See ya tomorrow, for tomorrow is always another genealogy day!
Renee Zamora

Missing Temples

I was so tired from yesterday that I overslept and missed church. In fact I didn't wake up until 1:00 P.M., I guess I really needed the sleep. I got up and looked at my Legacy program. I have been leaving it running the IGI Search feature overnight. Twice a day I stop it and close down and restart it so it wouldn't get anything funky going on. Don't know if it really needs me to do that but I just think I should. Out of my 12,000+ database it determined I have 8,931 people with incomplete ordinance information. Some of them I am finding are those without temples listed. I looked in the IGI results and they don't have the temple listed either. Just the date of the ordinance completed and no name. I'm terrible but when I've gone through all the names and can't find it I guess and fill it in. Is that terrible?! I just don't feel like having the program tell me they need their work done when they don't. My friend Teresa came over and sat with me a while and couldn't believe I was doing that. I crushed her opinion of my high standards.

Personally I know the works been done, it's not like I'm going to submit the name again just to get a temple place. OK, if you think this is a bad thing to do let me know. The real question is why is that information missing in the first place? The pattern I am seeing is the baptism temple place missing. Even on these old family group sheets it's missing. If I see an individual with the dates for baptism and endowment together with only the temple listed on the endowment - then I record the same temple for the baptism. I wonder why everything isn't showing in the IGI - I thought it was all there by now. I wanted to go by the earliest date I have and record that for the ordinance. Well this missing temple place has messed that plan up. Now I'm going for the earliest date with a temple code next to it. Some of these old dates off the long family group sheets aren't even in there for me to confirm it. I'm going by what appears the most official.

The other thing I have noticed is a lot of baptism and endowments done for deceased children (under the age of 8). I decided to start going by the dates given instead of just listing child. I'm not sure if they are coming up as incomplete ordinances because of nothing in their temple place field. I have to study the pattern more on that. So far it seems like the lack of a sealing to the parents is showing what's incomplete. I had one person that I wondered why they were in there as incomplete, all the ordinance dates and places where there. Then I realized it probably wasn't earlier because of the sealing to the spouse being filled in recently by me.

Right now I'm only finished alphabetically up to the Brock's. The IGI Search is ahead of me into the H's. I wonder how many days it will take me to do this project? Overall it hasn't been so bad. Kind of interesting to find new information. I've also been surprised to see some of the work done that I thought wouldn't be. It's really rather random who has had their work done. I had one family that their work was done and I felt so happy for them. I told my friend Teresa - they are happy now in my file that I have them complete. She thought OK, she's a little weird. I told her I will have this feeling at times when I look at people in my database and just know they have accepted the work we do for them. I don't need to be the one doing the ordinance for them to know of their joy. It's made known to me just as a confirmation that I'm doing the right thing.

My patriarchal blessing says "...you will experience great joy and happiness in this important work, and your kindred will praise and honor you for the work you do in their behalf." I don't think it's only talking about their temple work. I think it's also the time and effort I have in gathering and keeping their records. Just because they have had their temple work done doesn't mean I don't go any further with them. I want to gather histories on them help bring them to life for others. I want my database to contain all the information I can on them. So I think they are happy as I remember them. I felt that today I just clapped my hands for joy with them. This work is no neat - why don't more people get involved?

See ya tomorrow, for tomorrows is always another genealogy day!

Church Resources for Temple and Family History Work

Today I was asked to spend 10 minutes during Sunday School to tell about Church resources to help us participate in temple and family history work.  I thought since I went through the effort of making a handout I would share it on-line with you.  I made a PDF of the handout for you to view. It contains some of my favorite genealogy links.

Last night I had a great time working on my genealogy.  Found lots of new stuff.  I will write about my new finds later.



Family History Sharing Ideas

I thought I would tell you about a new website (for me) Family History Sharing Ideas. I learned about this website in my recent Executive Board Meeting of the Utah Valley PAF User Group (UVPAFUG - http://www.uvpafug.org). The website address for Family History Sharing Ideas is http://www.snapwood.com/familyhistory/. This site is a great resource for LDS members interested in Family History and Temple Work.

You could use this site if you are a family history consultant, preparing for a family history orientated talk, or just wanting to learn more about doing temple work. This is not an official LDS Church website - "Just Family History friends sharing ideas to help each other in furthering this great work!"

What you will find on this website:
1. Quotes - Various types of family history quotes. Love the quotes under "Assistance from the Other Side of the Veil".
2. Ensign Articles - 16 articles from the Ensign
3. New Era Articles - 11 articles from the New Era
4. "Friend" Articles - 14 articles from the Friend Magazine
5. Curriculum Lessons - 3 lessons from Curriculum Materials
6. Mormon Ads - 5 Mormonads (posters) and sayings from the New Era
7. Conference Talks - 15 Conference talks on Family History
8. Ideas - Various ideas shared by Family History Centers - 3 Vols. Ideas from Family History Fairs/Seminars/Conferences: has links to their websites and write up on the events.
9. Training - A must see! Free links to actual lessons on a variety of Family History related subjects. Links to Free Classes - 4 major resources. Other Helpful Links - Alan Man articles and presentations, Hispanic Helps, etc. Computer Helps - Links to Free PowerPoint Tutorials.
10. Other Resources - Additional Resources, more Family History Talks, Firesides, Devotionals, Articles, Center for Family History and Genealogy at BYU, Links to Genealogy Free Stuff - forms and charts, programs, etc. Instruction for using PAF Insight and Hispanic Help Links. Great Stuff!
11. Histories/Journals - Variety of links for writing your journal or personal history.
12. Leadership - Articles, Quotes and Tips for those in Leadership positions.
13. Priesthood - Ways for Priesthood Leaders to help promote Family History Work.
14. Music - 15 songs listed
15. Temples - Informative information on the Temple; the who, what, why and where of it all.
16. Strengthen Families - Various articles on Strengthening Families on this side of the Veil.

This is an excellent website. I encourage you to bookmark it and use it often; because tomorrow is always another genealogy day.

Address: http://www.snapwood.com/familyhistory/